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  • I-10 Exit Ramps to Town Creek Development (TCD)- (Click HERE to take the survey) Please take time to read through this information, and the links, before taking the survey.

The question is whether the City or County should use your tax dollars to pay for a Private Enterprise's Development.

Please take time to read through this information, and the links, before taking the survey.

EMAIL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCILMEN & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION whether the commissioner court and/or City Council should approve any involvement with funding or construction of these proposed ramps, frontage road and parkway to a private development.

YOUR OPINION COUNTS!

Judge Pat Tinley - cojudge@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 1 - Buster Baldwin - bbaldwin@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 2 - Guy Overby - goverby@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 3 - Jonathan Letz - jletz@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 4 - Bruce Oehler - boehler@co.kerr.tx.us

Mayor David Wampler - David.Wampler@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Bruce Motheral - Place 1 - Bruce.Motheral@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Stacie Keeble - Place 2 - Stacie.Keeble@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Scott T. Gross - Place 3 - Scott.Gross@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Gene Allen - Place 4 - Gene.Allen@Kerrvilletx.gov

Read Councilman Stacey Keeble's thoughts on this issue - click HERE.


The subject of this issue
is using city or county dollars for the funding of the proposed exit ramps off of Interstate 10 between Harper Road and the big cut (between Harper Road and State Highway 16). The developer of TCD (Chuck Coleman) is seeking City and County approval of the ramp idea and ultimately full or partial funding from either or both of these entities.


It would appear that Chuck Coleman wrangled his way onto the 12/13/2010 Commissioners Court workshop agenda as a stragetic part of his plan to "fast track" the funding process. In the minutes from this meeting he states, "We were going to wait until January to roll it out and talk to people about it, and then I found out about this meeting and decided it would be a good opportunity."

Attendees were Judge Pat Tinley, Commissioners Jonothan Letz & Bruce Oehler and Mayor David Wampler, Councilman Bruce Motheral and developer Chuck Coleman. Also attending were representatives from TxDot (Mike Coward, Mario G. Medina [SA District Engineer]) and Mr. Beam.

In that Workshop meeting Mr. Coleman made the statements:

"....we know that the city and county has limited developable land out there for the future growth. I'm talking even out 50 years. I think this - if we could do this, it's going to shift the burden from residential tax base to the commercial tax base, and it's going to hlep mitigate the impact of the residential tax freeze." In one statement, Judge Tinley says, "Chuck, the thing that excites me about this is the shifting of th tax base.", meaning from residential (eliminating the problem of frozen tax rates) to commercial.

Judge Tinley continues with, "That's (shifting of the tax base) probably the most important thing that we've got to accomplish here from an economic development standpoint, because the commercial industrial business end of it pays more than its fair share, as it were, because it generates sales tax too, as well as the values on the capital investment. But if we're ever going to get our tax base on an equitable footing, we've -- it's absolutely essential we get more of that (commercial tax base)."

They're (Chuck Coleman) also proposing an new 4-lane road- Town Creek Parkway - which would run from the new ramps on I-10 south through this development to connect with Holdsworth Drive and, according to Chuck Coleman, "could be linked all the way on down to Highway 27 following Town Creek".

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Regarding funding, Chuck Coleman stated, "Obviously, the developer is going to have to pay his fair share.". That would indicate they expect someone else to help fund the construction of the ramps, frontage roads and new parkway (blue, green and pink lines respectively on the map above).

Chuck Coleman tossed out speculative figures for increased tax benefits to the city, county, state and KISD that would glaze Donal Trumps eyes, indicating that these figures were "very conservative".

A "pass-through" funding is discussed (funding by one entity and then they are reinbursed by another) at this meeting. During one part Chuck Coleman states, ". . . the pass-through funding type deal, where the bonds were issued by city/county jointly to build it (ramps, frontage road and parkway), and then TxDot will reimburse down the road." The likelyhood of TxDot reimbursing anyone is slim-to-none according to information given later in the meeting. In one statement, Mr. Beam (we're not sure what agency he represents, but it would appear to be part of TxDot) says, ". . . I'm thinking it (funding for ramps, frontage road and parkway) would probably be more of 100 percent local funding."

Bruce Motheral, city councilman, states in that meeting, "I can't speak for the whole Council, but certainly this has a lot of merit from the standpoint of economic development, and we -- I will present it to the Council and do my best to support whatever the commission wants, that it can do.

Mr. Coleman later states, "It (their development) helps the County, theCity, helps the school district. It helps transportation flow. And I think on the basis of that, at some point it will become viable, and money will be available at some point, just because it is such a good deal." Judge Tinley: "Of course, talking economic developmen, when you approach me on that basis, you know you got a -- you got a real pigeon. I'm a softy when it come to those issues."

Judge Tinley: "We got to do it. It's got to happen."

When quizzed if the County and City's support would make a difference with TxDot approving the project, Mr. Medina (TxDot District Engineer out of San Antonio) states, "Yes, sir, it does." "It does. Usually what we see is a resolution from both parties going ahead and supporting the project." In essence, that is why Guy Overby brought a resolution (which was approved) to the County Commissioners Court on 2/14/2011.

Chuck Coleman (ex-City Councilan), presented this same 21 page proposal (Dated November 15, 2010) to the City Council at their January 11, 2011 meeting detailing the proposed "access ramps along both the eastbound and westbound lanes of I-10 along Town Creek Development frontage of I-10" and how the building of these ramps would generate millions of dollars in tax benefits to the city, county, School District and the state. $ signs seem to be glistening in everybody's eyes. Pages 21 - 47 of that proposal can be read HERE. For the full proposal, click HERE. The full City Council minutes of 1/11/2011 can be read HERE (pages 6-7 pertain to the proposed TCD project).

All the business and job additions as well as increased tax revenueis are speculative, based on information paid for by TCD. As far as EOG can discern, the city or county has not done any analysis themselves to verify information presented by TCD. And, as of this date, EOG has seen nothing stated by TCD indicating anchor businesses (such as Target, Best Buy, Old Navy or Olive Garden for example) have committed to this project. Nor has anything been said indicating anchor businesses have been approached.

In addition, Kerrville and Kerr County are already spending monies attempting to get funding from federal agencies through Lamar Smith. The City/County spent approximately $10,000 recently sending 7 city/county delegates to Washington, DC attempting to acquire funding for this project (and the USDA project) by visiting with Lamar Smith and other agencies (Keep in mind, Washington has already overspent $14 trillion (current national debt) of your money!).

Even though the City Council, nor County Commissioners, have approved this project (they have issued motions of support of this project in regular meetings), they are spending your money in an attempt to get funding for a private enterprise.


As stated at the beginning of this page, the real question here is whether the City or County should use your dollars to fund a private enterprise's development.

One suggestion which was made to EOG was for the County and City to approve this development, and then agree to reimburse the developer a stated percentage of actual taxes generated by this development, up to a specified amount and and time period. That would put the burden on the developer to make good on his promises. Sounds reasonable to EOG.

These questions are for you to decide. Your opinions count. Please complete our survey by clicking HERE.

All survey results are submitted regularly to the appropriate governmental agency and personnel as well as the new media.

EMAIL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCILMEN & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION whether the commissioner court and/or City Council should approve any involvement with funding or construction of these proposed ramps, frontage road and parkway to a private development.

YOUR OPINION COUNTS!

Judge Pat Tinley - cojudge@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 1 - Buster Baldwin - bbaldwin@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 2 - Guy Overby - goverby@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 3 - Jonathan Letz - jletz@co.kerr.tx.us
Precinct 4 - Bruce Oehler - boehler@co.kerr.tx.us

Mayor David Wampler - David.Wampler@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Bruce Motheral - Place 1 - Bruce.Motheral@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Stacie Keeble - Place 2 - Stacie.Keeble@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Scott T. Gross - Place 3 - Scott.Gross@Kerrvilletx.gov
Councilman Gene Allen - Place 4 - Gene.Allen@Kerrvilletx.gov

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